tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-123471967098236890.post6381016624456008804..comments2022-04-10T19:36:13.739+03:00Comments on Combating Messianics: The Goal Of Many Messianics Is Not To MissionizeA. Michaelhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17290668816169371637noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-123471967098236890.post-71944960991644184442015-12-28T15:41:01.844+02:002015-12-28T15:41:01.844+02:00Another point, "unknown", is that why do...Another point, "unknown", is that why do you think ו is used for the "o" and "u" vowels? If you spell it אוהב, why would you pronounce it "ohev" and not "ovhev"? It is because even when ו became bastardized among Ashkenazim as a v instead of a w, it was understood that it is a placeholder for the two vowels which contain a "w" in their pronunciation ("oh" and "oo"/o and u). Even Ashkenazim say esrim u-shtaim (עשרים ושתים) and not "esrim vu-shtaim" or "esrim uv-shtaim".A. Michaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17290668816169371637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-123471967098236890.post-24137680158051235952015-12-28T15:18:56.767+02:002015-12-28T15:18:56.767+02:00I speak Hebrew, write in Hebrew, read in Hebrew, l...I speak Hebrew, write in Hebrew, read in Hebrew, live in Israel, and I study Torah daily in Hebrew. Making the letter ו a v is a bastardization that happened among Ashkenazi Jews when they lost the ability to pronounce w at all.<br /><br />Ashkenazi Jews originally pronounced ן as a w, and all Sepharadi Jews did until recently when many adopted the standard Israeli pronunciation which includes the bastardization of ו from w to v. All know that Yemenite Jews pronounce Hebrew more correctly and authentically than anyone. They still pronounce ו as a w. Each letter in the Hebrew alphabet has a unique sound. We already have a v sound, which is the soft form of ב.<br /><br />Interestingly, even Rashi, who pronounced Hebrew in an older and more correct Ashkenazic pronunciation, even attests to the fact that seghol (the triangular 3 dot vowel) as "ah", not "eh", just as Yemenite Jews do today. I don't know how he pronounced other vowels and letters, but many Ashkenazi vowels are either the same or very similar to Yemenite vowels. For example hholam, the "oh" vowel is pronounced by Yemenites as anywhere from a "eu" (almost like an English accent "oh") to an "ei". Some Ashkenazim pronounce it like "ei", and other like "oi", and some like "ai". This is slight difference is because the two Hebrew dialects were once almost the same.<br /><br />When a German attempts to say "something", he will say "somesing", because he cannot say "th". The soft form of ת is th as Yemenite Jews still say and many Sepharadi Jews used to until recent history. Ashkenazim render it as an "s", because they're basically speaking Hebrew with a European accent. This is also why they say v for ו and not w.<br /><br />Do you get it?A. Michaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17290668816169371637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-123471967098236890.post-25713200638736400892015-12-23T06:31:15.803+02:002015-12-23T06:31:15.803+02:00Are you saying that the letter vav is truly pronou...Are you saying that the letter vav is truly pronounced like a W. If you believe that then you don't know Hebrew.<br />What about the Vahavtah? Or The V'al Kulam prayers?<br /> ועלכלם ואהבתRavkohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16630129743075092358noreply@blogger.com